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, as always, with mr. ron claiborne. >> hi, dan, bianna. we begin in australia, with a confrontation with a shark. it cost a surfer two fingers and a chunk of his leg. the 29-year-old was surrounded by a pod of dolphins when the shark attacked yesterday. >> my legs. >> and witnesses say the man used his surfboard to fight off the shark. but the shark bit off two of his fingers. >>> and police in new york city are searching for a woman who pushed a man to his death in front of an oncoming subway train. police are checking homeless shelters and psychiatric units for the woman seen in this surveillance video running away from the scene of that crime. authorities released a sketch of that suspect. investigators used a smartphone and a bottle prescription pills to identify the victim. he is the second person in a month to be pushed to his death in the new york city subway system. >>> and the neighbor of the gunman who shot and killed two firefighters is under arrest, accused of buying two of the guns in that christmas eve ambush. dawn young of rochester allegedly purchased the weapons in
, and with me tonight are msnbc political analyst ron reagan and real clear politics reporter erin mcpike. i was stunned to see bobby casey, the senator from pennsylvania, who is a classic pennsylvanian, in the past he's received a b plus or an a rating from the nra. he told "the philadelphia enquirer" he will come back for -- coming out for a new assault weapons ban and legislation banning high round magazines. he said his decision amounted to being summoned by your conscience. he said his wife had pressed him to rethink his position on gun safety in the wake of newtown. he said the power of the weapon, the number of bullets that hit each child, that was so, to me, just so chilling, it haunts me. it should haunt every public official. if those two bills come before the senate, i will vote for both. that's a risky, strong position by bob casey. >> he's not the only one. joe manchin, the senator from west virginia, on monday was saying this has changed his thinking. of course, these are two democrats -- >> but manchin hasn't said he will vote for these two bills. bobby casey said he will. it'
ban was largely cosmetic. >> give me a ron reagan gun bill. >> a ron reagan gun bill says just like when you want to buy a car or drive a car, you have to go and prove that you understand the laws surrounding the use of your gun. you have to prove you know how to use your gun, how to store your gun, how to clean your gun. you've got to go through a background check, of course, whether you buy the gun at a gun show or anywhere else. think of the stupidity of the gun show loophole. i mean, was bob casey talking about that? the fact you can buy a gun over ruling out the possibility of some gun control legislation, but catch his act. this is what the republican party has been brought down to. they have to kiss the butt of the gun guys. take a look. >> we join the president in mourning the victims of the horrible tragedy in connecticut. he's appointed vice president biden to lead a commission. when the vice president's recommendations come forward, we'll certainly take them into consideration. at this point i think our hearts and souls ought to be to think about those victims in this --
presidential candidate? for now, we turn to david corn of mother jones and ron reagan, an msnbc political analyst joining me. i want to start with ron. why would they want to change the ee lk tolectoral state like pennsylvania? why would they do that? >> well, i think the republicans have examined the playing field as it were and through long and bitter experience they have come to the conclusion that is it is very difficult for them to win on a national level unless they cheat. so they are going to cheat any way that they can. we saw it in the vote suppression. that didn't work out so well. so let's just change systemically the way we change the votes and in states like pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, florida, like that, these are the battleground states that we need to win and we're narrowly losing them now so let's at least try to get some of the electoral college votes out of this and tip the election. >> ron, you know why he's with him? it's not about the voter suppression. the 60 some counties that always go republican, they can't stand the fact that philadelphia and pittsburgh, large
to the fiscal cliff. from "thew bid frittle bit washington times." this is ron from louisiana. caller: good morning. host: who wish to nominate? -- who would you'll nominate? caller: obama. host: what makes him your hero? caller: we were on a major slide when he came into office. he save the automobile and got osama bin laden. he did everything even though the gop did nothing but filibuster. every proposal he has made. the economy is still growing even though everything that has been put against him. host: are there other heroes you look to beside the president? caller: this year i believe he should be the star for what he has gone up against. he was trying to do a reasonable -- get a compromise and the gop was saying their way or nothing . it is costing the nation. host: thank you very much. this comes from twitter. host: i next call is on the independent line. good morning. caller: the bartender that took the videotape of mr. romney talking about the 47%. he showed an insight into the candidate. host: why is he a hero? caller: he had the courage to share with others. host: anybody else in
people began plunging into the ice beneath. here's abc's ron claiborne now. >> reporter: it began when one man accidentally slipped off the sheet of ice and into the lake. the people you see in this video are members of a sledding excursion that goes terribly wrong. >> we saw this guy coming across the ice really fast. it went from cheering to all of a sudden just -- to an unbelievable amount of panic and chaos. >> reporter: one man goes to the ice's edge to try to help, but then he falls in. and then, one would-be rescuer after another tries to help only to plunge into the lake themselves in a chain reaction. a crowd gathers on shore. frantically screaming for help. >> call 911! >> reporter: five minutes after the first man went in, nearly a dozen people are in the water as others throw ropes and inner tubes but no luck. micky herman shot this video, you can hear him calling for someone to bring a hope. >> it was very hard to watch. >> reporter: finally, nine harrowing minutes into this ordeal on ice, everyone somehow manages to scramble out. amazingly, this escapade on ice ended happ
? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> welcome back to "starting point." today's team ron brownstein, will cane and roland martin, we're keeping you an available spot for him. >> empty chair. >> roland has been dieting. you can't even see him. if you've ever been confused by facebook's privacy settings, you are not alone. even mark zuckerberg's sister might be after a private family photo she posted on facebook went public. she is the former marketing director of facebook and she posted this photo of her family. >> that's her. >> there we go. it includes facebook ceo mark zuckerberg, someone who wasn't supposed to see it saw it because she was friends with someone else who was tagged in it and it was retweeted in the aftermath. an angry response that included this line, it's not about privacy settings, it's about human decency. >> talk about six degrees of separation. you had the chain of events there. >> someone who saw someone whose friend saw it who posted it? welcome to the internet. >> the increasing reality is you're assuming that anything that can be seen will be se
. he is the leader, the ramrod of all those right wing challenges. he put up ron johnson to beat mitch mcconnell because he's too liberal. he's leaving, quitting his senate seat, giving it up, to run the heritage foundation. we have other stuff coming up, but let's start with that. >> first of all, he's going to make a lot more money. ed fuelner, who is leaving, makes $1 million a year. demint has a net worth of $40,000. secondly, the leadership has tried to rein him in. they've said, you can't go out and go after these conservative republicans with really conservative republicans in primaries because you're setting us up to lose senate seats. now that he's out of there, he can become a kind of cross between grover norquist and the jim demint he always was. he can drive these hard right ideas, but he can also sponsor hard right candidates in republican primaries. i think he thinks he's going to be more important at the heritage foundation than he is in the senate. >> let me ask you about that, john. it looks to me not just -- the money is always a draw for some people, i'm not sure it
best friend forever. here's abc's ron claiborne. >> reporter: this is a story about a little girl named mia. a little dog named marley. and a real life grinch? >> somebody swiped a 7-year-old girl's dog. >> reporter: 'twas the morning before christmas and it was all captured on surveillance video, right outside the store where mia and her mom were shopping. >> we didn't know if we would ever see him. >> reporter: mia was devastated. >> he's so adorable. i can't even trim my tree without him. it's like so hard to be without him. >> reporter: miles away, on christmas day, a schoolteacher named tina cohen was walking through a park and noticed a man selling a dog. >> they didn't look right together. it wasn't right to be selling a dog on christmas and i had a gut feeling this was not his dog. >> reporter: so, she bought the dog for $220 and took him straight to a vet. who checked him out and found his identification microchip. >> we got a phone call and he said -- he said, we have your dog. we have marley. and we screamed up and down. we had marley. >> reporter: yeah, what were you thinkin
, pst we also have ron reagan. you have the rye sense to go with this. why would they want to change the electoral count? why would they go against a block vote? why would they do that? i think the republicans have examined the playing field as it were and long and bitter experience, they have come to the conclusion that it's very difficult for them to win on a national level, unless they cheat. so they are going to cheat any way they can. e we saw it with the voter suppression efforts. let's just change how we count the votes and in states like pennsylvania, ohio, florida, states like that, these are the battleground states that we need to win and we're narrowly losing them now so let's get some of the electoral college and maybe it tips the election. >> i'm with ron before i even know i'm with him. it is about voter suppression. the counties that always go republican, they can't stand the fact that philadelphia has the population. they can't stand that fact that that effects the statewide results. >> it would benefit the republicans. a lot of minorities we like to cut them off. the
me now, politico executive editor and ron mott live in lansing, michigan. first, you, ron mott, the day after the governor rick snyder has signed the right-to-work bills, what is the labor movement planning to do next? >> well, we don't know, andrea. pretty quiet on that front, much like it is down here on the street. far different scene yesterday, of course, a lot of union workers very upset about not just this legislation that's going to wipe out a 77-year-old requirement that workers be forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment, they are upset also about how this was jammed through the legislature. this was passed in both bodies in four days time and signed by the governor last night. what the advocates of this legislation say is union shops and unions no longer can just depend on fattening up their membership roles by default, they actually have to go out and sell themselves, sell their benefits to the workforce in order to earn those memberships. so we'll see how this all changes. the law will go into effect some time in late march or early april. we don't know
at for the hood will stand before a new judge today. ron matz is in the newsroom with more on the hearing. >> reporter: assan will appear in military court for his first pretrial hearing in more than three months. he's charged with more than a dozen counts of murder following the 2009 rampage that killed 13 people, more than two dozen others were injured. his case had been put on hold since september after the former judge ordered him to shave his beard or be forcibly shaved before his court martial. assan who is muslim appealed the ruling. two weeks ago the u.s. court of appeals for the armed forces ousted that judge and overturned his order. jessica back to you. >>> thank you. hassan was studying to be a psychiatrist here in maryland and faces the death penalty if convicted. >>> what a difference a day makes. after a gloomy day yesterday today is looking pretty nice. taking a live look outside where the sun is shining after a wet morning. wjz is live with first warning weather coverage. meteorologist bernadette woods is inside updating these very nice temperatures. >> it is pretty incre
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that mimicked schizophrenia. dr. ron burke has been developing it glix-13. >> we found it has a very nice antidepressant effect, lasts for several days after a single sise, and with no side effects will of schizophrenia at all. >> reporter: in one study, patients taking an experimental drug had a 40% improvement in ymptoms compared to 24% on placebo. jim staples participated in the trial. ed iy hope is that the trial drug will, in time, be the last one i'll ever have to take. i take the drug for the rest of my life, but it might be the last one i have to switch to. >> reporter: the drugs are still in trial, and even if they continue to show promise, f.d.a. approval is still three to five eears away. >> pelley: thanks, doc. president obama continues a christmas tradition begun by calvin coolidge when we inntinue. um become "i can"? talk to your doctor. orencia reduces many ra symptoms like pain, morning stiffness and progression of joint damage. it's helped new ra patients and those not helped enough by other treatments. do not take orencia with another biologic medicine for ra due to an i
walker will welcome you as well. ed reilly will give the polling results, and ron brown will do the interview and then we will have a panel discussion. it will be a terrific day. please turn these babies off. again, welcome. joan walker is executive vice president of allstate. joan has been a terrific partner with us over the last four years. she is responsible for all relations for allstate. prior to joining that company, she did similar work with monsanto. she is a consummate marketing and communications strategist, which is what this town of washington is all about. that you very much, and welcome our friends here. [applause] >> ok, good morning, and thank you so much for that kind introduction. "the atlantic" and "national journal" have been terrific partners in this effort. i thank them very much for that, and many thanks to edward reilly, who will take us through the data today, and also for jeremy, an associate, who was the lead researcher on the poll. we have interviewed 25,000 americans. we have a very rich body of knowledge about specific issues, and now coming togethe
, and republican strategist, ron bon john. some say the fact that we're not hearing much of washington is a good sign, and in this case, silence is golden. you guys agree? >> yeah, i definitely do. look, one of the things that we've got to realize here is that the more that this fight takes place in public, the less is being done behind closed doors, because everyone feels that they have to justify the public rhetoric. so i think that we have two silences going on. there's barack obama and john boehner working things out and the republicans realizing that they've got to find a way to negotiate. so silence is golden for christmas season. >> do you agree, ron bonjean? >> yes, i completely agree. i think that silence is best. and right now while they're figuring out how to put a deal together, i think the president softening his rhetoric in michigan on the issue yesterday was extremely helpful. you know, what we are still far apart, as far as we know, on entitlement reform, spending cuts, raising the rates, you know, we've been talking so much about raising taxes that we're not talking a lot about
decision. >> reporter: ron claiborne started his shopping this morning. >> i could never get focused until the 23rd, the 24th, sometimes not until the 25th. >> reporter: see, he's making great choices. >> i want this one. >> reporter: stores stay open for the last-minute larrys. target is open until 10:00 p.m. christmas eve. walgreen's is open christmas day. >> reporter: are you a procrastinator by nature? >> kind of. >> reporter: good luck. it will be okay. >> thank you. another advantage of last minute, the sales have already begun. the late bird can catch the best worm. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> nick watt on the last-minute larrys. thanks, nick. >>> looks like two former presidents from opposite sides of the planet will be spending christmas in the hospital. president george h.w. bush is still recovering from bronchitis. doctors say he needs to build up his energy before he can be released. doctors say nelson mandela, in the hospital now for two weeks is improving. he's 94 and recovering from a lung infection and gall stone surgery. also, queen elizabeth is a bit under the we
heading towards montgomery drive. we're getting moderate rainfall now. ron yark park starting to pick up light rain taking you down to street level. if you have plans winter storm warnings this is where you may encounter travel delays. 46 in chico. 39 in tahoe down towards southern california, better travel conditions, 67 degrees for tomorrow in los angeles. tomorrow afternoon, highs with scattered showers looking at upper 40s to upper 50s. you'll need rain gear several days if you have shopping to do or you're traveling. chance of thunder saturday. dry christmas eve. christmas day looks fine. you can ride a scooter in the morning. but by christmas day, afternoon, evening, chance of rain in the north bay. >> could be roller skating. >> yes. >> les miserables the musical comes to the big screen for christmas. it has biggest advance sales for any film this year. abc 7 news has an advance review on the aisle. >> they're singing and captured on film, not being recorded so it's like a live theater experience. this is big. spectacular. hugh jackman has to be award winning as the man when serve
, everyone somehow manages to scramble out. amazingly this escapade on ice ended just fine. >>> ron claiborne with the dramatic pictures from california. the mountains there. >>> now we turn to those pictures from moscow. >>> the flight was attempting to land at moscow's airport when it overshot the runway, broke through a barrier fence and finally skidded to a stop on the edge of a highway, the plane broke into three pieces and burst into flames, witnesses rushed to pull survivors from the wreckage. it was flying back from the czech republic with no passengers and just eight crew members onboard. four of them were killed including the pilot. other four were seriously injured. the death toll could have been worse because that's a major highway. >> russia's air fatality rate is three times higher than the world's average. investigation has been opened up into today's crash. abc news, moscow. >>> in chicago tonight, a stunning milestone to mark this year's end. 500 homicides in that city, near a record high, which they attribute to gang violence and illegal guns. in new york city, 414 murders.
. >> reporter: ron claiborne started his shopping this morning. >> i could never get focused to the 23rd, 24th, sometimes not until the 25th. >> reporter: see, he's making great choices. stores stay open for the last-minute larryr larry. target until 10:00 p.m. walgreen's is open christmas day. >> reporter: it'll be okay. another advantage of last minute, the sales have already begun. the late bird can catch the best worm. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> thank you, nick. looks like two former presidents from opposite sides of this planet will be spending this christmas in the hospital. president george h.w. bush is still recovering from bronkitis. doctors in south africa say former president nelson mandela in the hospital now for two weeks is improving. he's 94 and recovering from a lung infection and gall stone surgery. >>> also queen elizabeth is under the weather tonight, trying to get over a nasty cold before christmas. the 86-year-old had to skip church today, something that rarely happens. buckingham palace says she'll be back in church for services on christmas day. >>> in newtown,
senator bob kerry and a former staffer for pennsylvania governor ed rendell. ron is a former communications director to the house speaker, dennis hastert. good to see you both. >> good to sigh. >> gregg: donna, let's start with what the president was offering a. even democrats are criticizing him for demanding 150 billion in more spending. not less, including a $50 billion stimulus this next year. at a time when the focus perhaps should be on spending cuts, are those democrats right? >> well, i'm hearing many more democrats resonating with the message that the president is delivering and that message is that he ran on and got elected on the basis of more taxes for the most wealthy americans. i think that there is a real danger for republicans in not really hearing that message. i've been impressed by the number of republicans that have made positive indications that more revenue could be forth coming, even in the form of tax increases on the most wealthy americans. and i think that there is a little bit of danger i think for the republican party as they redefine themselves as
revealed in 911 calls just released. and abc's ron claiborne has more on the story. >> reporter: these are the final moments, seen on police dash cam video, of road rage turned physical. >> he's got a gun. he's got a gun. >> reporter: this, after the drivers of these cars had a high-speed duel on a wisconsin highway. >> we have a car that's being disgruntled on the road. it just hit us. a red acura. >> reporter: the 911 caller you're hearing is nicholas flanagan, riding with his friend, jessica ratliff, and four children in a minivan. he said his car was intentionally hit by another motorist. >> we have a van full of kids. he's coming up on the side of us again. >> reporter: but at the same moment, 911 dispatchers are getting another call. the driver of that acura, scott van patter, claiming he's the one that's just been hit. >> i just got sideswiped by a van. >> reporter: dispatch tells both drivers to stop at a nearby shopping center parking lot and wait for police to arrive. >> all right. >> okay. i do have a conceal and carry. >> reporter: that's van patter telling the opera
realize are ron burr is not someone they want near the white house. jefferson becomes president and jefferson the question is how much could matter? and if you look at the jefferson administration, historians are overwhelming the most important event of the jefferson administration was louisiana purchase. that's not surprising. if you double the size of the country peacefully and almost no cost, the enormous achievement for for any president. any president would want that on the rÉsume. so is jefferson a high impact president. if he had not been there, would the louisiana purchase happen anyway? and if you look there what you see is jefferson sent missionary to france to buy the louisiana territory. he didn't he sent them to buy the city of new orleans from fraps. the louisiana territory as a whole was not mentioned by anyone in the united states as even a possibility. so they traveled across the atlantic and lands in france and starts traveling toward paris. and before he arrives in paris, the american ambassador who was already there robert living stone approached who is that
him ron, he addressed her as margaret. >> i think they had quite a congenial, personal connection to each other. but these documents show that margaret thatcher, not always so full of praise for reagan. >> britain was at war for argentina, trying to hold onto islands in south atlantic. >> the united states couple down firmly on our side over the f k falklands. >> but in private there were tension. she wanted victory. mrs. thatcher said she was sure that the president would act in the same way if alaska was threatened. >> she writes, i think you are the only person who would understand the significance of what i'm trying to say. >> very personal. >> absolutely. >> the charm offensive did the trick and they remained friends long after he left power. margaret thatcher, 87 years old, spent christmas in the hospital ill. in the coming years, we'll likely see many more files which will shed a light on a time when she and president reagan were working together to spring an end to the cold war. fascinating stuff, t.j. >> thank you so much. >>> getting close to the bottom of the hour now.
that the economic impact of such a work stoppage is disaster. joining me is nbc's ron mott. for folks not following the story, how did we get here? >> reporter: folks haven't because they're paying attention to the fiscal cliff. this was lurking in the shadows and today moved the ball down the field for 30 days and may be talking about a strike again in 30 days but the big issue here was this so-called container royalty that the shipping companies pay to the union members who actually the guys and men and women offloading the big ships and the containers with things like tvs and shoes and clothing, they get a royalty based on the weight of all of those containers and the shipping companies are looking to try to control costs and increase their profits and the biggest sticking point. in the agreement that they have announced today for the 30-day extension they're saying they reached agreement in principle on the royalties which was the biggest stumbling block here so i think it's probably safe to say in 30 days to button up all the little issues here, minor issues, secondary issues and move forward
snapshot of this survey. [inaudible] ron has done that also. that is coming up, and thank you very much. [applause] >> [inaudible] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i am 25. this is my third year out of college and i'm on my third job. >> i'm semi-retarded. i've always been a salesman multinational corporations, also a stockbroker. and now i'm selling language programs that is family-owned and run, working a small company is great spent my name is jason. i'm a real estate agent and an investor. >> and i am case manager and also -- spent my name is rod rodriguez. i consider myself leigh keno. born in cuba. when i came to america i was eight years old. really, right now my hobby is my children. >> concerned that we all have is growing the economy. generally act like the country is on the right track. from a real estate standpoint, i've seen an increase in home sales. >> every job that i've had has been through a contact of mine but that doesn't mean i haven't had to look really hard. >> i have a 24/7 job. i work pretty much, i work all different hours. >> i think we need to be creating more jobs in this cou
and charlotte would think of us if they were here. >> good morning, i'm congressman ron barber from southern arizona. currently completing the term that was served by congresswoman giffords. i come to this issue from a number of perspectives. on january 8, 2011, i was standing beside the congresswoman as her district director when a gunman charged forward and opened up. i saw him shoot the congresswoman, and i decided that day judge john roll died and my colleague gabe zimmerman died, in 45 seconds 30 bullets were discharged from one clip. 45 seconds, 19 people were down. six of them died. that was an extended clip. the gunman had another one in his pocket and two shorter ones in his pocket, and had it not been for the quick action, courageous action of people there, he would have loaded and 30 more bullets would have been discharged. i come to this issue as a parent and a grandparent. i was on my way to the rural part of my district on friday when i heard the news about the shootings in connecticut. first i heard three had died, that was bad enough, then i heard 20 children had died. and i
, ambassador ron kirk. democratic heavyweight, pro tension gubernatorial candidate. terry mcauliffe. and none other than william jefferson clinton playing. imagine the conversation out there on the links at andrews. >>> up next, we'll talk to the former senate majority leader who recently served as u.s. special envoy for middle east peace. was the leading peace negotiator for that region, former senator george mitchell will join us live on the other side of the break. we'll spend some time with him. >>> and record rainfall up and down the west coast. a live report from one northern california town, where the river is literally rushing through it. >>> money was the single most important factor in the election. >> a little bit later, former president jimmy carter said president obama's re-election win was his grandson's doing. we're dead serious. we'll tell you why, we're watching msnbc. the place for politics. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaq
afternoon golf with those guys. former president bill clinton, former dnc chair terry mccauliff and ron kerr. it's the president's third outing since winning reelection. only the second time ever, though, he has played golf with former president clinton. president obama has a full day today. >>> coming up, as another u.s. base comes under attack in afghanistan, we will look at what the war on terror will look like after american troops come home. >>> plus, there's the question of what to do with the several hundred detainees still locked up at guantanamo. we'll cover it all. the brain trust is here. they won't disappoint. they won't disappoint a whole lot. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this pl
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saying, quote, we are going to take you out. nbc's ron mott has the latest of lansing. >> reporter: good afternoon, tamron. protest is the word of the day. they're voicing opposition to this legislation that would make michigan the 24th right to work state in the country. now, the governor rick snyder is expected to sign this legislation when and if it hits his desk. a lot of folks here believe that this is a back door attempt at trying to limit democracy in the state of michigan. you can hear some of the protests behind me and union workers here believe it's a direct attempt at trying to break the backs of the unions as i should say and a lot of folks believe that this is payback for the result of the election on november 6th. the re-election of president obama. i spoke with the head of the chamber of commerce here in michigan. he believes this is going to be beneficial to the state. helps him go around the country and around the world promoting jobs in michigan. this will make business more pro-friendly here in michigan. now, some of the workers here today believe it's an issue of fair
obama, axelrod particularly, anita dunn also, david plouffe less so a little bit ron klain a little less so said hold it. we've got to make this guy look presidential. romney is killing himself. we don't need to be -- the word they kept using was caustic. so they gave him a lot of contradictory advice. he himself was conflicted. and my sources say right before he left for that disastrous prep debate in nevada, look, i don't know what to do here. you're giving me contradictory advice. >> here is a tough question. maybe you don't know the answer to. this tell me. john kerry was the head of the debate team. he was the guy playing him. was he part of the team that said get tough and the other guys overruled him later? what happened? what was his role in this? >> i would defer to glenn. but generally john kerry was not blamed by the president or the president's high command for his poor denver debate performance. they said kerry did his job effectively. and the proof of that, chris, the fact that john kerry is about to become secretary kerry instead of senator john kerry. but glenn can speak
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